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The Father: Truth Teller, The Mother: Aya granny, Daughter 1: Najma, Daughter 2: HNK.

Saturday, March 05, 2005

In the hands of justice

In the last few Weeks, I didn't write any think in politics, because I found that my point of view is annoying to some of you, and I was, and still very keen to conserve your friendship. But those days there is a lot of things that deserve to be written, so I have to rewrite again in politics!

In the last 2 weeks, and almost on daily bases, Nineveh TV shows us a group of people arrested by the Iraqi police (IP), Iraqi national guards (ING), or the Iraqi army. They classify those people as terrorists, they confessed on the TV that they killed so many people , beheaded some, kidnapped, and raped others. Their number was about 85 or more. But the terrorism actions are still going on. Yes I know.......There are more to be caught!.

Some of them confessed that they received 200$ for every person they killed, some have fixed salary of 1500$ a month, Just to do what they were asked to do. Who paid those money? It is a question who need an answer.

The thing that made me write this post is that; during a recorded interview on the TV, some of those terrorists give the names of the persons they had killed but some of the names were proved to be fallacious, they gave the names and addresses of living persons who have no relation to anything as being killed. (the names given were proved to be of some of their relatives).!!! Very strange, I think.

In addition, in the interview on TV, they looked if they have underwent a severe torture. The person who made the interview with them always hide himself, and insult them with offensive words. They always repeated what he want them to say, If they say something different or not allowed he either mute the sound, or asked the questions again till they get the desired answer.

Those things make the audience suspicious about the truth!

In another interview on the TV with the commander of the (Qowat al-Theeb), it means in Arabic (The wolf force), the reporter asked him if he did fabricate those interviews?. But he denied that and insisted that everything was real. In addition, he (the commander) asked those people whose names are mentioned as being killed to represent themself to the authorities.

From the interviews and the conversations, anybody can concluded that there were two types of prisoners. The terrorists and the Jihadis.

You can recognize between the two from the type of their missions.
The jihadis never kill policemen or the civilians.

The terrorist did what they did to frighten the people, or for their own interest, to gain money by the easiest way available in those days.

They blamed the Syrian Mukhabarat for assisting and paying the salary of those terrorist (I thing this a type of pressure is against Syrian government for some dirty political reasons.)

As the condition is not very clear for me, I promise to update the subject when I get more information.

BTW, the commander says: "They are the Iraqi forces who did this great job."
There were an old rumors that the Americans freed the prisoners who didn't attack them who had been caught by the Iraqi police. This is really happened when the police arresed some of the criminals, the Americans took those criminal and freed them the next day after interrogated them and be sure they didn't attacked them. The Americans claimed that they have no place to keep those criminals. So they let them free!!!!. they are only interested in the terrorists (those who attacked them!).

After they have been displayed on the TV, and confess on air everything is settled, nobody can free them or blame the Americans any more.

You remember how we divided those people into 4 groups. But now we can divide them into only two.
1-The jihadis. (group of men fight to free their country)
2-Tthe terrorists which includes the other three groups (the criminals, saddams men, and those who are paid by foriegn country to ruin Iraq!)

25 Comments:

Blogger David said...

I am just posting to let you know I am here and listening to what you have to say...

3/05/2005 09:51:00 AM

 
Blogger Hassan said...

Hello Truth Teller, Aya Granny, Najma and Hnk how are you doing??

Nice blog, I didn't know it existed. Truth Teller this is your second blog now right??. Aya Granny I didn't know you blogged, welcome to the blogging world. Najma, well you seem to have 3 blogs participations, when do you find time for all that. And HNK you were sick earlier how are you now??. I wonder, when will there be a line on the right carrying the name of my blog in it.

3/06/2005 08:40:00 AM

 
Blogger Libby said...

Dear Sir
As much as I wish to hear everything your family has to contribute to this blog, I'm afraid the comments have already been hijacked. What a shame.

Libby_in_Canada

3/06/2005 10:57:00 AM

 
Blogger Truth teller said...

Dear Readers

Thank you for stopping by our blog. But I am very sorry to tell you that some indecent and offensive comments are being made with my daughter's name.. So, if you suspect with anything like that, check the profile and make sure that it's not Najma.

From our side we will delete every comment containig silly and offensive words.

3/06/2005 11:32:00 AM

 
Blogger praktike said...

Mr. Truth Teller-

Congratulations on the new blog. Sorry about the "graffiti," which seems to be a common problem. Some people have no manners or a sick sense of humor.

I think that there is a large cultural gap between common American understandings of the word "jihadi" and the Arab understanding of the word. Let me see if I can explain them in neutral fashion, before other commenters jump in and get angry--this is a touchy subject, as you may be aware. See this New York Times piece, for instance. It is written by the newspapers' public editor, and outlines the debate within the newspaper over when to use the word "terrorist." He concludes:

"My own definition is simple: an act of political violence committed against purely civilian targets is terrorism; attacks on military targets are not. The deadly October 2000 assault on the American destroyer Cole or the devastating suicide bomb that killed 18 American soldiers and 4 Iraqis in Mosul last December may have been heinous, but these were acts of war, not terrorism. Beheading construction workers in Iraq and bombing a market in Jerusalem are terrorism pure and simple."

To most Americans, "jihadi" automatically connotes "terrorist," or someone who follows the teachings of Ibn Taymiya, believes that their religion requires them to fight all unbelievers all over the world and create a new Sunni Caliphate, etc. A takfiri extremist might believe that it is his religious duty to kill his fellow citizens who are Shi'a Muslims, who in his view are blasphemers who worship idols and so forth. Maybe this is considered "hirabah" rather than "jihad?"

To Iraqis, I think, the word "jihadi" means someone who is engaged in a righteous struggle, whether it be against an occupier or aggressor (defensive jihad), or just someone who is struggling to do good in the service of their religion. You say these are the people who are exclusively fighting American soldiers and not Iraqis. So under the Times' definition above, such a person would not be a "terrorist," you see, because they are not attacking civilians. But not everyone is as precise, and as I said above, Americans tend to use the word "jihadi" to mean "terrorist" so it will be extremely difficult to change that perception. Furthermore, what do you call people who intimidate their fellow Iraqis into, for instance, not voting? Who threaten to kill collaborators? Are these Saddam's people doing this and therefore terrorists under your definition?

Please understand that it is nearly impossible for a patriotic American to view somebody trying to kill American soldiers--this is the group that under your definition is called "jihadis"--as good people, even if to Iraqis and to religious scholars such as the Sheikhs at Al Azhar, what these people are doing by planting roadside bombs and firing on American soldiers is " religiously permissible." Think back about the Iran-Iraq War, when Iraq was in Khuzestan province. You were a medic, I think you said. How would you feel about Iranians shooting at Iraqi soldiers there? What would you call them?

Furthermore, the American assumes that his soldiers are there to help, so it is hard to comprehend why someone would want to fight them. Wouldn't the reconstruction be going better if nobody was attacking oil pipelines, power stations, etc.? Wouldn't Iraq be better off if these "jihadis" stopped fighting and worked to rebuild everything that has been destroyed? Then the Americans could put away the Strykers and tanks and vehicles that cause you ordinary Iraqis so much distress. That is how we tend to think about things.

I am just trying to explain our perspective--which is by no means uniform--as you have explained yours. Thanks for sharing and listening.

3/06/2005 11:59:00 AM

 
Blogger strykeraunt said...

Truthteller,

When I came over to this site and read the comments about offensive posts, I wondered if what I post can sometimes be considered offensive. It is true that I do not agree with some of the opinions that you and Najma posts but my intent is never to be offensive. I am actually glad to hear that you will "delete every comment containig silly and offensive words." If you delete one of my posts I will know that you did take offense and will either explain myself or quit posting. So, for me this is a pretty good rule.

3/06/2005 12:04:00 PM

 
Blogger Ann said...

In addition, in the interview on TV, they looked if they have underwent a severe torture. The person who made the interview with them always hide himself, and insult them with offensive words. They always repeated what he want them to say, If they say something different or not allowed he either mute the sound, or asked the questions again till they get the desired answer.

Those things make the audience suspicious about the truth!
Thank you again for an excellent post!That would make me suspicious as well! "It sounds fishy to me."

Some other comments: it is usually considered against the Geneva Convention to show prisoners. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

I thought that the Jihad's are not freedom fighters; they are people who want to kill everyone who is not a Muslim as they think that submission to Allah is a requirement of their religion. They say they believe that killing non-Muslims is a requirement of submitting to Allah. It is strange that so many Muslim's are being killed, but that group labels its victims as "martyrs" and thus says it's OK for them to be killed!

3/06/2005 12:05:00 PM

 
Blogger strykeraunt said...

I agree in general with the comments made by praktike. However, one thing that does confuse me about this definition is the people who call themselves jihadis and strap bomb vests on before the join a group of innocent citizens and blow themselves up. I don't think the Americans came up with the term Jihad for any group, we are simply following from people who call themselves jihadis. In addition, a "jihadi" who plants a bomb in the road does not know if it will be an american soldier or Iraqi citizen who is harmed...so again I am confused by the term and the definition.

I left a longer comment on Truthtellers site regarding this subject because I didn't know about this site until after it was already posted.

3/06/2005 12:16:00 PM

 
Blogger AlanK said...

Hi nice blog, I will add it to my links on my own blog, keep on writing.

Also TV programe sounds interesting but they should not torture them or put them on before they have been tried in court

alan

3/06/2005 12:51:00 PM

 
Blogger bosaxi said...

Guys if you want to watch the TV spots you can go to:

http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S1

and view them yourself and make your own judgement.

They also have the transcripts if you don't have a fast connection.

3/06/2005 02:44:00 PM

 
Blogger Irishcoda said...

I just wanted to stop in and say hello, I think it's really cool that the whole family has a joint blog. I've been reading Aunt Najma's & HNK's for quite a long while and most recently began reading truth teller's. I pray for the safety of your family.

Oh, and Aya is one of the prettiest little babies I have seen!

3/06/2005 06:38:00 PM

 
Blogger Mark Kilmer said...

Truth Teller...

To me, your political statements are very imortant. They let me know what a father and doctor in Mosul thinks of the situation around him. You and your family are living what I read about in short newspaper articles.

When you distinguish between the jihadis and the terrorists, is there a difference in what they do? For instance, do they both kidnap and murder people but for different reasons? And does it make either alright?

You seem to suspect that these suspects on television were coerced to confess, perhaps by torture. Who do you beleive tortured them?

I cannot speak for anyone else, but if you think the Americans might be responsible, I'd like to know how you've come to that conclusion. I cannot be angry with you for thinking this, if you do, because of the situation you are in. Where I live (U.S.), it is relatively very safe. I don't know what it's like to worry every time I step outside. I don't know what it's like to have a daughter attend a flooded school. I don't know what it's like to have spent my entire life under a brutal dictator only to be suddenly thrust into chaos.

The situation in your country today has never, to the best of my knowledge, existed anywhere else in the world. The more I can learn about it from you and your family, and from the other Iraqi bloggers, the better I am.

And the jokes are great and important. It's true that everybody loves to laugh.

3/06/2005 07:54:00 PM

 
Blogger Mad Canuck said...

Doctor,

I was very disappointed to see today that some sick person has chosen to impersonate your daughter Najma in the comments section of your family blog. Najma is an honest, decent, and respectable young lady, and it really makes me angry to see someone trying to humiliate her like that.

However, I was glad to see you were the one to have taken those sickening posts down rather than Najma having to do it.

Shawn.

3/06/2005 08:08:00 PM

 
Blogger strykeraunt said...

I now see what you are talking about in regards to the sickening posts. First, understand that those who follow Najma know that it is not her posting those comments. Second, isn't there anyone out there who can tell this family how to ban this person from the site. I know they are using a ficticious name but it must be connected to (at least) an IP address. I know nothing myself otherwise I would explain. If this is the type of emails you have been getting Najma, then I am so sorry!!!

3/06/2005 08:32:00 PM

 
Blogger Mad Canuck said...

Strykeraunt: Unfortunately, you don't get a lot of functionality with comments in Blogger - they don't provide the ability to see the IP address of the person who posted a comment, and don't give you the ability to "ban" someone from the comments section of your blog.

Some of the bigger blogs use Haloscan for comments for these exact reasons: you can see the IP address of an abuser (useful for filing complaints to an offender's ISP and getting his/her Internet account cancelled) and can ban them by IP address or IP range. The Iraq the Model brothers have used an even better idea: editing the offender's post to publish his/her IP address and let their readers do the dirty work.

Shawn.

3/06/2005 09:08:00 PM

 
Blogger Beverly said...

Great new blog. Please try to ignore the rude ones. Most of us are not that way. I love the pictures you post. Aya is a beautiful baby. And Najma is an intelligent young woman.

3/06/2005 10:40:00 PM

 
Blogger Truth teller said...

Libby
Thank you for your note.
I take a simle measure to avoid such silly comments from being read.

parktike
I agree with every ward you say.
The meaning of Jihad in our language is differs from your understanding of the ward. All the actions which involve killing of civilians in any region of the world are considered terrorism.
Even if it is against other military forces, unless there is an announced war between the two side.
The real Jihadis never attacked oil pipe lines or power stations. Those who did such things are terrorists.


strykeraunt
very happy to hear from you again. we accept your comments with open mind. Differences in opinions is a natural thing. We (I and my whole family including Najma), respect you and your opinion.


ann
Thank you for your nice comment.
The meaning of the ward Jihadi is differ very much from what you amd most of the non muslim understand. But I assure you that the real Jihadi never wnat to harm any non muslim because of his religion.


mark kilmer
"When you distinguish between the jihadis and the terrorists, is there a difference in what they do? For instance, do they both kidnap and murder people but for different reasons? And does it make either alright?"
The answer to the first question is Yes there is a difference as I mentioned above.
The Jihadis never kidnappe or murder peoples for any reason. If they have to fight, they fight face to face. No bombed cars, no explosives,and no killing from behind. even in war.
"You seem to suspect that these suspects on television were coerced to confess, perhaps by torture. Who do you beleive tortured them?"
I beleive that the Iraqi police who did that.
Thank you

3/06/2005 11:46:00 PM

 
Blogger emigre said...

Re confessions; must be very distressing for you. Hopefully any pressure won't affect your style, you have tact and it would be a shame to see it "cramped".

Najma is a fantastic young woman, you're a lucky family to have such great people in it.

I've noticed blogger has made a few changes lately to comment manage-ability so hopefully more are on the way. You can contact the blogger host guys here -->

http://www.blogger.com/problem.g

to make suggestions or send them a "wishlist" of comment features that might help improve things. (You'll need to be logged in to blogger to view that link).

3/07/2005 03:14:00 AM

 
Blogger Ann said...

Truth,

One of my coworkers (at another site) is a Sufi and says the war-like jihad is a mini-jihad that these "cowards" use to avoid approaching the "real" jihad - which in his opinion is a personal, or inward, questioning or resolution of conflict within oneself.

We do have some notion of what Muslims believe here, but unfortunately there are too many people using the mass media and religious termonlogy in a way to advance their aggression. A few Muslims come forward with alternative terminiology like "halaba" for the jihad. But most people using the word "jihad" are referring to Bin Laden's 1998 declaration of jihad (holy-war) against the US, Israel, and the west. It is my belief, and the belief of many people in the US, that these "insurgents" "freedom fighters" "jihadists" "suicide bombers" are fighting the holy-war (jihad) of Bin Laden.

I am so sorry that the words of your religion and culture are being abused this way. It makes me so sad. Obviously most Muslims do not agree with using the word jihad in this fashion, or that it is their religious obligation. All I can say is "what a mess!"

Hope you keep blogging! I want to read more, although sometimes I recoil and cringe at the Anti-American sentiment expressed in your blogs. I want to shout - no, that's not the way we are!

3/07/2005 06:10:00 AM

 
Blogger Truth teller said...

To any one who wants information about Islam:Because I am not so well in english and the talking about religions need some body who is better than me in both the subject and the language.
I suggest a site which I think can answer all your questions about Islam and that is Be Convinced.
So try it please and let me sleep in peace

3/07/2005 07:51:00 AM

 
Blogger richsanter said...

it certainly seems like this italian lady has a bit of an agenda. now it comes out that the italian government paid the terrorists a ransom, as they did before with those 2 other female italians. the american government wasn't told by the italians of this for some odd reason. she is an anti-war activist and a writer for a communist newspaper...interesting.

3/07/2005 03:24:00 PM

 
Blogger Original_Jeff said...

Najma,
Here is an interesting letter from a 15-year old Afghanni girl who came to the United States to study for one year.
Here is the information page from the US government. YES scholarships cover all major expenses, including airfare, room and board, health insurance, pocket money, and educational supplies. ... You are just a few months too young, but maybe you can apply later.
http://www.amideast.org/offices/iraq/programs_services/yesiraq.htm

3/07/2005 03:52:00 PM

 
Blogger heyduke said...

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure of the universe. Albert Einstein this can be said about some peoples comments.

3/07/2005 05:20:00 PM

 
Blogger CURTIS said...

I watched some of the interviews with the terrorists on the MEMRI TV
web site. It was very odd, however, I did not see any evidence of torture on the few interviews that were shown. I also watched some of the elections broardcasts, which were very good and professional.

I am married to a Lebanese girl from Jamaica, and have a daughter that is a register nurse in the army. She was schedule to go to Mosul, but became pregnant before she was shipped out.

I enjoy hearing your and your family point of view, although I don't always agree. I started out reading Najma site and was disappointed when she quit receiving letters, but I can understand why.

3/15/2005 12:05:00 PM

 
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3/01/2006 10:26:00 PM

 

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